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 Francesco Landolfi, .

 Monday, September 18, 2017

Hi everyone, in this post I just want to introduce myself to the community. I am dealing with algorithmic trading since I left the world of investment banking in London where I've been for 9 years. I know quite well the markets, I worked in trading desks as a market maket in rate derivatives, but I ve never digged into algorithmic trading until I left the banks where, honestly, those who give the impression of vaguely believing in the non-randomness of markets is taken as a crazy or potentially dangerous eversive figures to keep under control. About the reasons why this happens I have my own ideas, but this it is not the right place to elaborate further I would like to share with you instead what has been my experience with algorithmic trading so far. I started and continue to use the platform called prorealtime. I spent the months from March to July developing and testing strategies using an open source forum called prorealcode, where I currently place myself in the top 3 among the most followed members with about 70 followers. You can see some of my codes downloadable for free here https://www.prorealcode.com/user/francesco78/ In total, I have about seventy strategies operating on indices, commodities and fx. The portfolio of strategies has been running since the beginning of August, and has produced the real equity line I place here. Since I'm totally self-taught, I would be delighted to hear comments and suggestions from more experienced people than i am among you; I want to go on and improve in the automated trading industry that I would like to make my full time job in the future. If someone has an idea about a possible collaboration, I would be very happy to discuss. Thank you all! Francesco


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 Scott Boulette, Algorithmic Trading

 Monday, September 18, 2017



Francesco Welcome to the group. One great thing about algorithmic trading is self taught or not, it doesn't really matter, the only thing that truly counts is your P&L.


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 Manuel Ochoa, Manager at Global Trend Capital Corporation( see breakdown below)

 Monday, September 18, 2017



4.76 average trade

Looks like keeping costs low is important . A philosophy i subscribe too as well.


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 Adelmo Tirelli, progetto start-up :business intelligence gestion portafogli innovativo . in rifinitura

 Wednesday, September 20, 2017



Interessante vorrei fare uno scambio di info ed eventuale collaborazione.


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 Francesco Landolfi, .

 Wednesday, September 20, 2017



ciao Adelmo, ok, puoi contattarmi in privato per cortesia.


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 mohammed shaikh, Managing director space consultant

 Wednesday, September 20, 2017



4.76 average trade is way too below, people have reached up-to 6.8/6.95 , again depending on the strategy what u used, may be u are using hedging part most if the time,

I am also into equities since last 18 years,


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 Bruce Levy, Algorithmic Futures Trader

 Wednesday, September 20, 2017



Curious how do you turn a profit with such small profit per trade near 50% profitability?


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 Giovanni Barbagallo, IT professional with proven experience in process reorganization, governance of IT depts and team leading

 Thursday, September 21, 2017



Ciao Francesco, happy to find somebody else with a path and targets similar to mine (with the only exception that I don't have experience in an investment bank).

I'm in the prorealcode community too (I'm a bad contributor for the time being) and I think it is a very good place where to discuss about technical solution to develop a strategy. Very often I'd like to compare and discuss about the content and reason of decisions taken in a strategies (WHY a choice is taken and not HOW to code it) but I haven't been finding room for these topics up to now. I'll look for you in prorealcode, hoping to exchange ideas and experiences. I'm strongly interested in money management and risk control.

https://www.prorealcode.com/user/barbagio/

ciao a presto!


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 private private,

 Friday, September 22, 2017



Thank you Francesco. Try www.Quantreex.com

Create your trading strategy without any line of code, do backtest in a second, optimize and finally automate your trade.


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 Anton Merkulov, Sales Manager for Southeast Asia and CIS

 Friday, September 22, 2017



Welcome


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 Marc Verleysen, founder at TSA-Europe -systematic trading and money management

 Friday, September 22, 2017



Hi Francesco, welcome to the "club". your strategy is still very young (just over 500 trades). However, it looks like you have some work to do on the losing trades. With a 59 % winning trades, you have a winratio of 1.18 only. That is too low. We have the same winratio (1.18) with just 42 % winning trades (average win is 1.6 times the average loss). Keep up the good work !!


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 Francesco Landolfi, .

 Friday, September 22, 2017



thank you Marc Verleysen!


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 Joseph Levitas, Algorithm Development & Consulting

 Friday, September 22, 2017



1. 59% of the winning trades – is a HUGE HUGE result! So, if you have it – go and dig a real money. On the other hand – it might be just a coincidence (as Marc has mentioned, that 500 trades is too young).

2. I have visited prorealcode.com - there are a lot of code there. Because trading is a competitive (not a cooperative) business, I am wondering - why somebody will share a strategy, he think is really good, with the rest of the world?


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 M. Bouziane BSc. MSc., Financial Engineering & Portfolio/Risk management. Cryptocurrencies investor/trader. Professor/Consultant

 Friday, September 22, 2017



Hi Francesco, I was in the strict and rigid trading world for a while and I am now trading with big data analysis and I am a firm believer of non-random market. When we apply time analysis we can uncover some patterns that are far too frequent to be random! Unfortunately in the banking world they don't want you to think that way even if a small elite in those institutions are applying those same principles to extract money from the market. Very glad to read you! Have a nice day! ;)


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 Francesco Landolfi, .

 Saturday, September 23, 2017



M. Bouziane, great to hear we agree on our view of the market :)


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 Francesco Landolfi, .

 Saturday, September 23, 2017



Joseph Levitas thanks for your comments, I think it makes no harm to share some of the strategies, it can help you to build a reputation and is a good way of receiving feedback from other people of the "club" that dont work in big institution. I think at the end of the day Algorithmic trading is nothing particularly esoteric, there are 3 kind of strategies: Mean reverting, Breackout and bias. Sharing some of them, will not cause a radical shift in the nature of the market.


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 Joseph Levitas, Algorithm Development & Consulting

 Saturday, September 23, 2017



Francesco, from my experience the market is a very tough place to survive. But if you feel different – good for you. As I already wrote: 59% is huge. I wish you a good luck, and big profits!


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 Antonello Camiletti, Futures Trader

 Saturday, September 23, 2017



Se fossi in te butterei a mare almeno 50 strategie per tenermi solo le 20 più performanti. E' dimostrato statisticamente che una diversificazione superiore a 20 asset non porta ulteriori benefici.


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 Francesco Landolfi, .

 Saturday, September 23, 2017



grazie Antonello le strategie sono gia'su meno di 20 sottostanti ma sono diversificate come tipologia. Mean reverting, breakout e bias. Grazie per il tuo interesse comunque!


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 Jinen Shah, Algorithmic Trading

 Sunday, September 24, 2017



Would be happy to connect


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 Ruan Haese, Business Discovery Consultant at QlikView

 Monday, September 25, 2017



Thanks for sharing, will degfinitely check these out. Regarding only 3 types of systems. (Mean rev, breakout, bias) Definitely open on debate but so far Ive categorized them as Mean Rev, Trending, Breakout, Time based, Candles (eg hammer or morning star), fundamental, sentimental. Arguably though I would understand if you said everything is either Mean or Trending and then a subcategory if that. ..Just opening this for discussion.


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 Andres Licona FRM, Market Risk Team Leader-Products at Shell Trading

 Monday, September 25, 2017



I agree with Joseph Levitas.....run stats to find out if this isnt coincidence maybe in sample and out of sample testing. You can run your own quant fund from home just by connecting Matlab with google or yahoo finance then connect execution by a private broker i.e. interactivebrokers. I do that but that last question mentioned before still remains why sharing just run your own shop and make money.....I will dig into your codes cheers


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 Marco Pedroni, AD AWIA srls - CTO Avanguard

 Tuesday, September 26, 2017



Ciao Francesco, secondo te, in qualcuna delle tue strategie, può essere interessante l'interazione con news in tempo reale provenienti da Twitter? Te lo chiedo perché sto collaborando nel produrre un motore che, attraverso algoritmi proprietari, seleziona tweets finanziari importanti (per ora NASDAQ e i principali NYSE e FTSE, in futuro Fx e commodities) e genera allarmi quando la pressione per minuto dei tweets su uno stock supera una soglia legata allo stock. Grazie.


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 Francesco Landolfi, .

 Tuesday, September 26, 2017



ciao Marco. E'sicuramente un idea interessante, potrebbe essere usata come filtro in molte strategiea, ma per averne un opinione statisticamente fondata direi che andrebbe analizzata nella sua efficacia storica in modo sistematico. un saluto!


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 Marco Pedroni, AD AWIA srls - CTO Avanguard

 Wednesday, September 27, 2017



Grazie Francesco, se ti interessa dare un'occhiata, http://avanguard.net/sphere.html , in menu-Support trovi una mail. Spero di sentire i tuoi suggerimenti. Buon lavoro!


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 MARTIN SMIETANSKI, ceo at GLOTEX

 Saturday, September 30, 2017



Hello Franchesco, your strategies seem rudimentary, did you ever traded any of your strategies live ? What was the contract/lot size per entry if It's ok to ask ?

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