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Quant Funds -- Who Is the Sucker When Robot Trades Against Robot?

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 Diego Cortes, Forex Trading (28+ yrs) - FX Fund & Trader Incubator Program

 Tuesday, August 29, 2017

...the “fantastic returns” of many quants has attracted too much money. This is in turn eroding the opportunities for everyone, and turning once-profitable strategies into duds, a phenomenon known as “crowding”... [PAYWALL] DiegoFX.co/2xu0HHY .


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10 comments on article "Quant Funds -- Who Is the Sucker When Robot Trades Against Robot? "

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 Scott Boulette, Algorithmic Trading

 Wednesday, August 30, 2017



Knowing the signs of algo activity allows a human or another algo to take advantage of the situation or at a minimum stay out of harm's way. As the old poker saying goes - if you can't spot the sucker at the table, you are the sucker.


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 Demetri P., Client services

 Friday, September 1, 2017



Investors lose


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 Alan Davis, Student at UNCW - Cameron School of Business : Seeking Professional Development with a HFT/Quant Shop or in Investment/Financial Planning

 Friday, September 1, 2017



And skynet was born!


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 Daniel Steyskal, I help businesses that have the deck stacked against them succeed in an increasingly competitive marketplace.

 Thursday, September 7, 2017



The robot with the worse algo.


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 Valerii Salov, Director, Quant Risk Management at CME Group

 Tuesday, September 12, 2017



If robots would only trade, enjoy, or suffer after that, then it would be a half of matter. But they do it for real people's money. Hopefully, they are not yet fully equipped to feel how the people enjoy or suffer, when they are winning or losing. Best Regards, Valerii


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 Justin J Arteaga Sr, Managing Partner, Principal at Cognitive Harvest LLC

 Sunday, January 14, 2018



After more than a decade now, I suspect I can share a little insight. Size matters. Low latency infrastructure, robust non-statistical analytics, tightly dialed circuit breakers and the discipline to reduce round-trip transaction exposure to milliseconds minimizes slippage below 5%. Admittedly, we only take pennies at most, but they add up (1-3% a day). You just have to push volume and not count what you may have left on the table. Not how much you can make, it is how much you don't lose.


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 Scott Boulette, Algorithmic Trading

 Monday, January 15, 2018



@Justin - very, very well said


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 Manuel Ochoa, Manager at Global Trend Capital Corporation( see breakdown below)

 Tuesday, January 16, 2018



Fantastic returns ? Looking but see just a few . The other guys dont market except maybe to friends.


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 Scott Boulette, Algorithmic Trading

 Tuesday, January 16, 2018



@Manuel - friends don't let friends market algos


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 Justin J Arteaga Sr, Managing Partner, Principal at Cognitive Harvest LLC

 Friday, January 19, 2018



Something more often forgotten in this discussion. The critical factors are human. People program their bias, and prejudices by the choices such as the key indicators their analytics peels from data feeds. You are still trading against people, the quant at the other end whose money you take, or give it up to, you just don't ever get to meet them. We gave up on statistical based approach long ago, and adopted game theory based analytics precisely for this reason. We are emotional creatures.

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