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Your thoughts on time stamps?

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 Nathan Aaron Place, Artist, Student, Investor & Professional Proprietary Trader at TRADINGplaces, INC.

 Monday, September 5, 2016

As a trader time is always of the essence and I am often concerned about the rather competitive advantage of high frequency traders. What are your thoughts both pro and con about this subject and the content of this article.


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4 comments on article "Your thoughts on time stamps?"

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 Jon Grah, Trading Signals Automation Expert AwarenessForex.com

 Thursday, September 8, 2016



Timestamps are already placed on incoming ticks and/or orders, aren't they? along with a 'ticket number' for tracking purposes. How else could an exchange or ECN enforce a FIFO or any other type of precedence system?


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 private private,

 Friday, September 9, 2016



Exchanges are more likely to implement queueing/sequencing using sequential numbers than time stamps as even microsecond precision (the highest that most computers can reliably achieve) will not be discriminative enough for large/fast exchanges.

64 bit long number is large enough to issue 1,000,000,000 sequence numbers per second for the next 280 years continuously.


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 Nathan Aaron Place, Artist, Student, Investor & Professional Proprietary Trader at TRADINGplaces, INC.

 Sunday, September 11, 2016



Thank you gentlemen for your thoughts and professional perspectives.


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 Stephane Hardy, Computational Finance Quant and Options Trader

 Monday, September 12, 2016



It depends what you do. If you arbitrage time delays in posting executions and book quotes between dark pools and Nbbo, speed is the essence. Or if you catch orders and beat them to the trade, using fast cancels and a mix of algorithms, you need proximity and speed.

But if you play market maker, or supply liquidity, your cycle is 2 to 10 minutes, and depends more on mechanics. So HFT actually helps you since it widens the weak spreads, and HFT clusters will take you out sooner.

Also, increasingly , trading venue boast about their fair trading infrastructure, sending HFT trades through a 35 mile fibre line loop, and attempt to reduce their advantage. This has served to concentrate HFT and dark pool trades where they are not discriminated... Thanks Nathan.

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