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Excellent Article - Applicable beyond financial markets to all risk and speculative activties

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 Greg Delaney, Trader & Coach at GD Trader Performance Consulting

 Monday, May 9, 2016

This is a superb article which has application beyond trading and investment. - Business, Sports Betting, Poker, Gaming, and many other fields.


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12 comments on article "Excellent Article - Applicable beyond financial markets to all risk and speculative activties"

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 Guy R. Fleury, Independent Computer Software Professional

 Monday, May 9, 2016



@Greg, nice article indeed, and most of it apply, apply to discretionary trading that is.

Whereas, an automated trading program might not learn from its mistakes, but its programmer might. A trading script might not love trading at all, or feel competitive, it certainly won't show its will to win. The trading methods won't care about its author's feeling or character either. It won't even know if you have a trading style or not. I have not seen automated programs feeling stressed out or emotionally entangled. No anxiety, no humility, displayed or coded.

There is planning, discipline, and execution. That's what a program is about after all. It doesn't care about risk or uncertainty. On the contrary, it will execute with 100% sureness whatever was coded, that it be good or bad.

Money management, position sizing, and risk management does apply whatever trading methods one wants to use, that it be using a machine or doing it by hand.

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 Guy R. Fleury, Independent Computer Software Professional

 Monday, May 9, 2016



An automated trading program is very focus, so focused in fact that it will executed whatever code it was giving and nothing else, no questions asked. The program does not see if it is right or wrong, it just executes, has no concept of achieving balance or gaining some perspective. It just does what it was program to do. It is up to the trading script designer to put in his/her program whatever code might be needed to accomplish its task.

So the task of designing an automated trading program might, or does, require an added set of skills in order to translate to code what might appear as discretionary, erratic, unemotional nuances in trading styles.


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 Omar Filali, CEO & Founder of iDMS Investment

 Thursday, May 12, 2016



Amazing article! All is about professionalism and excecution plan. It doesn't matter the nature of the business, these major skills are very helpful to have as long as we are exposed to manage the risk/reward relationship.


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 Greg Delaney, Trader & Coach at GD Trader Performance Consulting

 Friday, May 13, 2016



Yes Omar - These skills are pretty Generic in trading and investment, but equally in business and management, and any complex environment.


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 Greg Delaney, Trader & Coach at GD Trader Performance Consulting

 Friday, May 13, 2016



I happen to know Steve Goldstein, the author, he coaches many traders, and ironically is often told Systematic Traders/Quants do not need coaching as their skills are purely logic based. - He has however found that when he does work with these guys, it helps them actually improve in all areas.


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 Guy R. Fleury, Independent Computer Software Professional

 Friday, May 13, 2016



@Greg, you are right. An automated trading program starts with an individual trying to automate what was a discretionary trading system. And as such has the same personality traits as any trader. And therefore coaching strategy developers should also prove beneficial.


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 Gosta Hulden, Senior MT4 programmer at MrMetatrader

 Friday, May 13, 2016



I am often tasked with translating my clients somewhat discretionary trading strategy into formal rules for EA programming, and it's a very interesting process both for me and my client, who often benefits from really questioning why and when he does certain things. And most of the time it's perfectly doable.

Plan your trade and trade your plan, and who does the second bit better than a computer :)


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 Vlastimil Adamovsky, Software Consultant

 Saturday, May 14, 2016



it's right that trading is a passion. When the passion becomes an addiction then you should get out.....


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 Douglas Jordan, Managing Director,Head of G10 FX Trading and Precious Metals at Crédit Agricole CIB

 Saturday, May 14, 2016



Great read


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 Lee Chen, FX Trader at LCTRAD

 Tuesday, May 17, 2016



Hi Greg - This is brilliant, it captures so much of the 'Human Element' of trading. This is the part which has held back much of my own 'Non-Human' trading over the years. - We forget just how much the human aspect plays when it comes to 'Non-Human' trading systems. Thank you.


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 Dmitry Korin, Private Trader / Technical Analyst at Candle Trading & Analysis

 Tuesday, May 17, 2016



Lee - I agree this is a great article. Not sure how it helps you as a systematic non-human trader, I have always been of the assumption that the whole idea was to remove the human element from trading.


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 John Berra, Private Trader

 Tuesday, May 17, 2016



There is no system yet which does not rely on non-human elements. - Design, Creativity, planning, recalibration, management, implemnatation, execution, etc, etc.

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