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Willingness to provide tested algorithms for clients to trade

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 Nipun Goel, Executive Program in Algorithmic Trading (Currently Pursuing), Author, Stock Broker & Proprietary Trader

 Wednesday, April 20, 2016

Hi This is to enquire if any of the brokers/traders who have developed their own algorithms, are willing to provide their algorithms for other participants to use them for a commission paid to them for the same?


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28 comments on article "Willingness to provide tested algorithms for clients to trade"

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 Dilshad Khaleeque CPA, CFE, CISA, CISSP, Principal at Self -Employed

 Sunday, April 24, 2016



This is licensing arrangements and depends on the vendors who are willing to do this. What kind of solution do you intend to use? I have ES (future trading) solution that I may be interested in but it will require upfront costs for training the traders first and set up costs too.

Thanks


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 Nipun Goel, Stock Broker, Algo & Prop Trader, Technical Analyst, Scriptwriter and Author

 Sunday, April 24, 2016



Do you have a proper backtested algorithm made for that trading?


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 Dilshad Khaleeque CPA, CFE, CISA, CISSP, Principal at Self -Employed

 Sunday, April 24, 2016



We have 7 key indicators to monitor and make discretionary trading decisions, and have done live simulation testing . Our algorithm is complex, and highly analytical for taking in consideration of the relative buying and selling as well as demand and supply at prevailing market price from the live data feed of NYSE. We rely on market internals, sentimental index, no supply, no demand scenario for the discretionary trading decisions. That is the reason I was saying that we may have to train the traders to read the live signals, and will provide daily mentoring for about 2-3 months to make proficient.

We are not using MACD or other readily available indicators.

I have live simulation trading data to share against NDA.

Thanks


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 Marc Verleysen, founder at TSA-Europe -systematic trading and money management

 Tuesday, April 26, 2016



Hi, Nipun, can we discuss this off line ? Send me an e-mail if interested


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 John Devron, Computer Software Professional

 Tuesday, April 26, 2016



Nigel, Have you looked at Collective2.com ? What you are asking for sounds a lot like what they offer. They provide a ready to go, no frills, automated trading service for a commission. Also, take a look at ForemostTrading.com


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 Rory Podvin, Day Trader- futures and stocks

 Tuesday, April 26, 2016



take a look at www.rightlinetrading.com


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 Stephane Hardy, Computational Finance Quant and Options Trader

 Tuesday, April 26, 2016



SOUNDS LIKE FUN: I have cute one that is directly from a fighter plane tracking algo in a dogfight. You can use learned behavior, or clean with no stats. You can have outside data like a market index, modeled or not. It just uses real time data and its previous path with first, second, third, and higher moments, matched with the previous positions answer to its matrix of polynomials, no stats or memory. It passes easily the required tracking a sine curve, a trended Brownian path, intraday price inflexions and running after a rabbit. You can adapt softly with Bayesian filters. That's a good exercise. Who remembers first year linear algebra ? ( Come on guys, he's asking for a basic algo..., we all have dozens )


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 Alex Krishtop, Consultant at Edgesense Solutions. Mentor at Algorithmic Traders Association

 Wednesday, April 27, 2016



Nipun, why do you ask? All: why did you decided that Nipun is looking for your algos and is willing/able to pay for them?


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 Stephane Hardy, Computational Finance Quant and Options Trader

 Wednesday, April 27, 2016



I provided some algos, see Stephane Hardy SOUNDS LIKE FUN, so come on, share some of your thoughts.


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 Nipun Goel, Stock Broker, Algo & Prop Trader, Technical Analyst, Scriptwriter and Author

 Thursday, May 5, 2016



Thanks a ton for all the helpful comments. I was actually looking for algo developers who are willing to provide backtested profitable algos as well as develop an algo on demand!


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 Marc Verleysen, founder at TSA-Europe -systematic trading and money management

 Friday, May 6, 2016



Nipun, this is actually not very helpful. Your request is pretty much like " i need something on wheels" (a bike? a car ? if the latter, a sedan, a convertible, gasoline or electric, ..)

Please specify your needs. What asset class(es), which performance metrics ("profitable" is not really very specific), what trading frequency, ....


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 Nipun Goel, Stock Broker, Algo & Prop Trader, Technical Analyst, Scriptwriter and Author

 Friday, May 6, 2016



I get your point Mark. Apologies for the dillema. Will get back with specific details!


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 James Hudson, owner

 Monday, May 9, 2016



@Nipun Goel. Please provide a complete and detailed performance list of your expectations. The more details, the higher level of

strategy developer will respond.


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 Marc Verleysen, founder at TSA-Europe -systematic trading and money management

 Monday, May 9, 2016



@ alex Krishtop : your question "All: why did you decided that Nipun is looking for your algos and is willing/able to pay for them " is a valid one.

From my experience, I have learned that often companies ask junior staff to "see what is out there". Hence, a very general question from (in this case) Nipun. By replying, we manage to arrive at a specific question and see what is really behind it. In most cases, not much, but every blue moon, there is some substance and an interesting relationship can evolve. That is why I am on Linkedin


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 Stephane Hardy, Computational Finance Quant and Options Trader

 Saturday, June 25, 2016



I am surprised nobody is interested in my algoes. I got zero requests. See my contributions in Quantlib.org . A free/open-source library for quantitative finance where we exchange dry rigorous ideas. But I have some good stuff in python even vba. Any tackers ? Enjoy your work, don't dilute your winners. Cheers, Steve


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 James Hudson, owner

 Sunday, June 26, 2016



Steve, I am not expressing any opinion about your knowledge or algo’s. But , I can say some things about the fact that nobody responded to you,

if my own personal life’s experience is of any value. Beginner level as well as intermediate level traders have been burned so many times that they just do not trust most automated strategies.

If your target client is among (what I call the World Wide 1% Club) and you are not a existing member of the Club, you will not get any responses as well.

It simply does not matter about your knowledge, abilities or at what quality level of your strategy.

It does not matter if you have been vetted at the 1% Club level.

all the best


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 Scott Boulette, Algorithmic Trading

 Sunday, June 26, 2016



Does the question roughly translate to - Can I give anyone $100 to get $10,000 in return (per year with no risk)?


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 James Hudson, owner

 Monday, June 27, 2016



@Scott, point well taken and I agree 99.9% of the time. You once quoted Bruce Lee. The basic core of my strategy was developed between 1999 and 2002.

My strategy is a Intraday Portfolio Trader (not a scalper). It is almost mathematically impossible to be curve fitted. I can present the trades list per instrument data that simply can not be manipulated. ( unless I am capable of changing atomic clocks on a per symbol bases)

all the best


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 Keith Frifeldt, President, Frifeldt Investment Counsel

 Monday, June 27, 2016



I'll bite. Look me up on LinkedIn. My stuff can be found there am I am killing it. Signals available.

Cheers.


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 Scott Boulette, Algorithmic Trading

 Monday, June 27, 2016



@James, I was referring to the OP and the idea in general of buying copies of algos. I have never known a developer of a successful algo to sell a copy of it; the developer either manages money using their algo or sells the algo outright for some risk adjusted npv. I am not clear on why anyone would do something different either as a seller or as a buyer.


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 James Hudson, owner

 Tuesday, June 28, 2016



I totally agree


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 Zantos LLC. Nicolas Gomez, Real Estate Professional, We facilitate custom order specific assets based on purchase parameters that fit your company.

 Tuesday, June 28, 2016



Please send an email to Realethical@gmail.com I only have 5 licence to provide 400% annual ROI projected.


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 Sal Starzun, Founders Sal and Orchid Starzun at StarzBank.com

 Tuesday, June 28, 2016



We supply systems to banks, hedge funds, family offices, and accredited traders


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 Nipun Goel, Stock Broker, Portfolio Manager, Technical Analyst & Author

 Tuesday, June 28, 2016



Thanks a lot for your input guys.. I will get back in case I find suitable.. and I believe everything is possible in the financial world.. and money can only be made COLLECTIVELY..!


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 James Hudson, owner

 Wednesday, June 29, 2016



Hello Sal, this jlh from the TradeStation forums. Hope you are doing well.


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 Richard Groome, President and CEO at Bridgerock Technologies Inc.

 Wednesday, June 29, 2016



Nipun, our algos are now available to all CQG clients worldwide, see : www.stealthtrader.com , looked me up on linkedin, Regards Rick


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 Scott Andrews, InvestiQuant CEO & Co-Founder, Futures Trader

 Friday, July 1, 2016



We have 14 currently (11 intraday and 3 overnight) at www.InvestiQuant.com - inventory is strictly controlled and limited (seriously). All strategies are based on ensembles of systems for confirmation.


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 Cameron Wild, Portfolio Manager

 Monday, July 4, 2016



There are thousands of them on collective2.com. Is that not enough for you?

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