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Programmed for Success -- Finding Your Next Trader - Now, trading firms are hiring a new breed of young guns on the trading desk ... This is where we see the rise of algorithmic trading, and as the

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 Doron Whitman, CEO at Algorithmic Traders Association

 Wednesday, March 2, 2016

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8 comments on article "Programmed for Success -- Finding Your Next Trader - Now, trading firms are hiring a new breed of young guns on the trading desk ... This is where we see the rise of algorithmic trading, and as the"

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 Søren Lanng, Founder at TickCOM

 Wednesday, March 2, 2016



This kind of article pops up from time to time, and it hasnt happened yet.

I can assure it will never happen that traders at the trading desk will sit for months programming automated strategies. They are too busy, plus the future is using visual development, not programming.

Like this article from 2012:

http://www.wallstreetandtech.com/careers/meet-the-next-generation-trader/d/d-id/1265873?


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 Scott Boulette, Algorithmic Trading

 Sunday, March 6, 2016



Doron, I agree with the basics of the article, especially the recognition that extensive experience in trading combined with an algorithmic mindset and the associated technical capabilities is a very difficult combination to find.

Most of the individuals I know well with those qualities work for themselves or as a partner in a larger group. The only consistent way I have seen to attract that type of individual is to catch them before they have the significant track record that will allow them to go virtually anywhere.

When I see requirements posted with requirements for those qualities along with a well established track record, I think of that as not trying to hire a person, I think of it as trying to hire "money". My next thought is always - good luck with that.


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 Brad L., Systems Engineer; electronic systems, radio and wireless communications, financial market analysis.

 Monday, March 7, 2016



Very well put, Mr. Boulette. Hiring someone with such qualities, as well as an established track record, is analogous to entering a market leg where you limit yourself to only the highest quality legs with clearly established trends -- always too late.


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 Scott Boulette, Algorithmic Trading

 Sunday, March 20, 2016



@Brad, it would seem we are on exactly the same page


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 Jon Grah, Trading Signals Automation Expert AwarenessForex.com

 Wednesday, March 23, 2016



Scott Boulette Brad Lynch you are both correct. Like trying to hire Mark Zuckerburg after facebook has already taken off. It seems interesting that even the larger prop firms are essentially in the dark about sustaining alpha. They have more spending money to play around with, but the tactical errors seem to be the same across the board. They are incubating paper credentialed engineers, but how good are they at actually taking risks, taking real LOSSES, identifying changing volatility, etc?

This is different than the ones they hire to program infrastructural technologies like front ends, CRM software, trading desks, accounting, etc. A trader is a "profit center" expected to generate alpha.

btw, Doron Whitman, the article you linked to required a subscription.


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 Brad Lynch, Systems Engineer; electronic systems, radio and wireless communications, financial market analysis.

 Thursday, March 24, 2016



Jon -- interesting comments you make about engineering and risk. While many engineering endeavors focus on meeting solid minimum requirements, others are more probabilistic and may be more suited to trading situations. Thinking manufacturing process variation and the zero/one determination logic in a received data stream. Also, social scientists dealing with polling data or medical statistics professionals might work out well.


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 Jim Kuzma, CEO / Manager / Trader at Astralis Inc.

 Thursday, March 24, 2016



Sign mr up.. I've been practicing toooo long.


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 John G. Pozhke, Founder / President at AIRGRO GLOBAL GROUP ("AIRGRO")

 Tuesday, March 29, 2016



Why would an experienced trader work for anyone? If you have one, how long will they stay? My experience suggests once that have a track record they are GONE.

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