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Does each buy or sell order of equities possess a unique set of risks to fill?

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 Sam Balabon, President and Founder at Deep Liquidity, Inc. with 3,400+ Connections

 Thursday, January 8, 2015

Does each buy or sell order of equities possess a unique set of risks to fill? If every buy and sell order is unique, shouldn't the market making community compete for the opportunity to fill every order on an individual basis? Shouldn't the risk to fill an order be stripped out of the transaction itself entirely and be auctioned off to the market making community? Wouldn't that be more efficient than the centralized books of the stock exchanges where quotes of all sizes are jumping in and out and attempting to be top of book?


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5 comments on article "Does each buy or sell order of equities possess a unique set of risks to fill?"

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 private private,

 Wednesday, January 21, 2015



Great question, Sam. To me all risk is the same, it's risk. I see each buy and sell, trading cash derivative options on the OEX, SPX and DIA, front month as the same, and I compete with the bid/ask, trading only when I am buying at below prior day close, and around support and resistance lines.


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 Sam Balabon, President and Founder at Deep Liquidity, Inc. with 3,400+ Connections

 Wednesday, January 21, 2015



I believe each buy or sell order that is larger than the shares available at the national best bid offer price (NBBO) contain transaction cost (slippage). The market needs new tools to flush out the transaction cost before an Investor commits to a trade. Currently investors are not granted this most important information because they lack the tools to see the transaction costs "before" they pull the trigger on the trade. We need to move to a more advanced market where transaction costs are pre-negotiated with market makers before trade executions occur not after them. Slippage itself should be auctioned off to the individual market maker that is willing to underwrite the greatest amount of risk associated with filling the Investor's order.


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 private private,

 Thursday, January 22, 2015



I see Sam's point clearly and agree


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 private private,

 Thursday, January 29, 2015



@Sam Balabon: larger order does NOT dictate immediate price adjustment.

It is the same as when you go to the supermarket to buy food - you don't expect to buy everything at lower price just because they have full shelves, do you?


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 private private,

 Thursday, January 29, 2015



@Sam Balabon: the market itself is self-regulating - after some time, it may be microseconds or may be hours and days depending on the market the price will move, but the direction of movement will depend on many conditions, not just on this larger order. And it may move in the opposite direction of what you are suggesting...

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