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Resources for short term trading

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 Smruti Behera, Portfolio Manager, Alternative Investments

 Tuesday, September 30, 2014

Hi Everyone, All of the strategies I trade at the moment have holding horizons of weeks/months. I am interested in learning more about shorter term strategies. By short term I mean holding horizon of days, not intra day or high frequency. Are there any resources online or otherwise that I can start off with? I am obviously aware that I won't be getting strategies handed to me on a platter. But I just want to get started in increasing my knowledge in this area. What are some of the broad concepts? What are some of the pitfalls etc. Any pointers will be most welcome. Thanks in advance for your help.


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5 comments on article "Resources for short term trading"

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 Kiddo Dhaval, Portfolio Manager

 Thursday, October 2, 2014



I trade currency markets..


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 Smruti Behera, Portfolio Manager, Alternative Investments

 Thursday, October 2, 2014



Thanks Ariel and Ilan.

Ariel, which of their books would be a good starting point? The two which show up most prominently on search are 'Short term trading strategies that work' and 'How markets really work'. I am guessing it's the former but just to make sure.

I read through one of their micro publications (Connors RSI) today. Looks interesting, will implement and see if it works on instruments I am looking at. However, was a bit taken aback with the absence of stops. I feel uncomfortable trading mean reversion without a stop loss rule.


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 Ariel Silahian, Algorithmic trading systems, C#, VB.NET, VBA, c++, derivatives, forex,equities,option strategies,NinjaTrader, metatrader

 Thursday, October 2, 2014



Correct, is the first one. But the other is very good as well.

Those strategies work very well on equities and indexes.

I use them a lot, with some personal tweak.

good luck


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 Paul H. Constantino, Credit Trader/Consultant

 Tuesday, October 7, 2014



I have developed electronic market making and ETF arbitrage models in fixed income...see www.cttadvisors.com/strategies.html


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 Vasily Nekrasov, Risk analyst and model developer at Total Energie Gas GmbH

 Thursday, October 9, 2014



>What are some of the pitfalls


1). First of all you are in danger to trade noise because in a shorter term the volatility dominates over the regular part (trend, mean reversion or whatever you use)



2). You need hi-quality 1h, 15 min or even tick data. It is currently not a big problem for FX but for stocks it is.



3). Do not forget slippage, spreads and broker fees: by relatively small returns per trade they are not negligible.



The main advantage: if you really have an edge, you will likely do release it, since you commit a lot of trades.



Have a look at my book: http://www.yetanotherquant.com


Though I do not explicitly discuss short term trading I do show how can you simulate the P/L of your strategy. I highly doubt that the trading will be worthy if you account for slippage and spreads.

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